October 2005


Comments& Restoration& Independent Christian Churches& Church of Christ20 Oct 2005 10:45 am

Hello all:

What I’m currently reading and viewing:

Post Modern Christian - the Blog of Gabe Peterson.

Christ Journey Church, Fort Worth, TX.

Mission Alive, a church planting ministry.

Christ Journey Adventures - the blog of Chris and Heidi Chappotin.

That’s more than enough links and things to look at in one post…

I was checking out Gabe Peterson’s blog when I found reference to a church plant that he had just visited. I checked out the link to the church website, and I wasn’t exactly sure what kind of church I had found.

I saw pictures of a baptism, and pictures of the Lord’s Supper being taken. I also saw pictures of electric guitars inside the church.

I also saw that the majority of the staff were graduates of Abeline Christian University, but that one had graduated from a Baptist college and another from an Assemblies of God school…

So then, I wondered, was this group affiliated with the churches of Christ, or the Independent Christian Churches? Or was this church completely independent and separate from any type of Christian fellowship?

I remembered that Gabe had mentioned that this church was planted by Mission Alive, a group he had interned with…so I checked out Mission Alive and after a little digging found that it affiliates itself with churches of Christ… and then found its information page on Christ Journey, which states that Christ Journey is a church of Christ.

The information page goes on to say:

“This church is firmly rooted in the Stone-Campbell heritage. To heighten their effectiveness, both Chris and Heidi are beginning a Masters in Christian Ministry degree through Abilene Christian University by taking a few courses each year. They believe in the priesthood of all believers and implement this practice in their churches. They believe that baptism and the Lord’s Supper are central to a Christian worldview. As believers, they worship God who sent Christ to die for us as remembered in the Lord’s Supper and understand that baptism is our participation in his death, burial, and resurrection.

Chris and Heidi have been married eight years. When they were married, Heidi became a Chappotin but did not cease being a Toole. She is, although of a new generation, very close to her parents, uncles and aunts, and grandparents. Likewise, Christ Journey has no desire to give up her relationship with her spiritual parents, uncles and aunts, and grandparents in the faith.”

Those are interesting quotes. Its very obvious that Mission Alive wants to let every one know that this church is a church of Christ….

Also in the article are references to a church of Christ which has financially supported this new church plant.

So…. questions I have for this post:

Can a church be instrumental and still be affiliated with the churches of Christ? Or, is this church more affiliated with independent Christian churches and churches of Christ? Or, should it be if it is not?

How does the use of instruments of music affect fellowship for this congregation with others? I would assume that the independent Christian churches would greet this congregation with open arms…. but what about churches of Christ?

Do other congregations know that Christ Journey uses instruments in worship?

I notice that while Mission Alive goes out if its way to paint Christ Journey as a church of Christ, there is no mention of this affiliation on the Christ Journey website. Was this an oversight, or was this done intentionally? If so, why?

DISCLAIMERS:

Okay, before the mud starts flying…a few statements I have to make:

I’m not attacking Christ Journey’s use of instrumental music. There are previous posts that I have written where you can read about my views of instrumental music.

I’m not very interested in having an argument about whether or not the use instrumental music is sinful or not. That being said, I’m not going to declare that off-topic…. I’m just letting you all know that that is not my intention for this post.

What I want to know is how this point of doctrine affects this congregations relationship with other churches. I’m interested in the dynamics of the fellowship that this church shares with others.

Lastly, I want to mention how moving it was to read about the accomplishments that this congregation has achieved so far. I hope that their good work continues.

Now…all of that being said, I hope that we can have a discussion on these issues. If you have an opinion on the questions I asked above, I want to hear them…so please, comment. I look forward to a good discussion.

-Clarke

News& Restoration& Independent Christian Churches& Church of Christ15 Oct 2005 03:06 pm

Hello all:

I don’t have much to write about, so here are some events that are going on or that will be starting soon:

Restoration Forum XXIII is starting tommorow (10/16/05) in Lexington, Kentucky. Douglas Foster and Leroy Garrett from the churches of Christ are speaking. I wish I could be there…maybe I can go next year when it is held at ACU, if I can get my wife of a plane.

Ministry Impact ‘05: GO starts October 26th through October 28th in Fort Worth, Texas. Impact is meant for both members of the churches of Christ and the Independent Christian Churches.

World Mission Workshop is going on right now at Harding University in Searcy, Arkansas.

Western Christian College in Regina, Canada had a lectureship and 60th Anniversary celebration earlier this month.

If anyone knows of other events, let me know.

-Clarke

Thoughts15 Oct 2005 02:41 pm

Hello all:

As you can see, I’m frustrated with Wordpress. I wrote out a post on different events going on in the brotherhood at the moment, and wordpress didn’t even try and post it….it just obliterated my words and displayed an error.

Of course, I probably should have told it to save, but sometimes even that sends my writings into space. I’ve gotten to the point where I copy and paste my posts (if I remember) to keep them from going bye-bye.

Anyone have any troubleshooting ideas? This hapeens often…

-Clarke

Comments& Independent Christian Churches12 Oct 2005 02:10 pm

Hello all:

What I’m currently reading: Miers’ religion is part of her life - Fox News.

This is an interesting article that Fox is running regarding Mier’s religous beliefs. Mier’s is a member of an Independent Christian Church.

Many people are worried that Miers would vote to overtune the “Roe v. Wade” case which disallowed individual states from prohibiting abortion.

Miers’ heritage of being a member of a Restoration Movement church also points to the fact that she may more inclined to being a strict constructionist of the Constitution. Whether than is the case is of course left to be seen.

I’ve not yet seen a major discussion of Mier’s roots in the Restoration movement as of yet in the mainstream media, but I am hoping that at some point that subject comes up in greater detail than simply calling her “evangelical” or “a fundamentalist.”

-Clarke

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